INQUIRER: I have read in books that some say, they have to descend in order to act in the world. This seems to imply that although they are established in Pure Being, they have to take the help of the mind when doing work. Just as a king, when acting the role of a sweeper, has for the time being to imagine he is a sweeper.
SRI MA: In assuming a part, surely, there’ is no’ question of ascending or descending.
Abiding in His own Essential Being (Svara);
He Himself play various parts.
But when you speak of ascending’ and descending – where is the state of Pure Being? Can there be duality in that state? Brahman is One without a second. Though from your angle of vision, I grant, it does appear as you put it.
INQUIRER: You have explained this from the level of ajnana. Now be pleased to speak from the level of the Enlightened (Jnani)!
SRI MA: (laughing): What you say now, I also accept. Here, (pointing to herself) nothing is rejected. Whether it is the state of Enlightenment or of ignorance – everything is all right. The fact is that you are in doubt. But here there is no question of doubt. Whatever you may say, and from whatever level – is He, and He, and only He.
QUESTION If this is so, is it of any use to ask you further questions?
SRI MA: What is, IS.
That doubts should arise is natural.
But the wonder is, where THAT is, there is not even room for different stands to be taken. Problems are discussed, surely, for the purpose of dissolving doubts. Therefore it is useful to discuss. Who can tell when the veil will be lifted from your eyes?
The purpose of discussion is to remove this ordinary sight.
This vision is no vision at all, for it is only temporary.
Real vision is that vision where there is no such thing as the seer and the seen. It is eyeless – not to be beheld with these ordinary eyes, but with the eyes of wisdom. In that vision without eyes there is no room for division?.
Here, (pointing to herself) there is no question of giving and taking, neither of serving.
On your level they exist, from there these topics arise.
This evening the following statement was made “Through the observance of silence one attains to Supreme Knowledge (Jnana)”.
Om Namah Shivay
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